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brighttail
01-06-2017, 07:49 PM
Hey all,

I've been looking at this bracket from Mountain Mods that will allow a GPU to be mounted vertically. It requires a mod to most any case. My problem is where it would go on the Enthoo Primo the case isn't solid metal, it is instead the honeycomb holes for air intake. I'm not sure if I could make it stable enough to hold my GPU.

Does anyone know of any Phanteks Enthoo Primo owners who have successfully modded the case to mount their GPU vertically? Any help would be awesome. Here is the bracket:

http://www.mountainmods.com/pci-modular-io-bracket-p-701.html

Thanks!

doyll
01-12-2017, 11:15 AM
I do not know of anyone who has done this, but I see no reason it would not be a fairly easy mod to do.

brighttail
01-12-2017, 12:30 PM
I do not know of anyone who has done this, but I see no reason it would not be a fairly easy mod to do.

I've seen two mod pieces. One is a bracket that actually replaces the current PCI covers and sets it vertically there. Which is great but it literally covers all the PCI slots. This means that my current PCI cards that house my M.2 drives wouldn't fit as they would bump into the GPU.

So there is another bracket that screws into drilled holes onto the case just ahead of the PCI covers. This is the better solution for me but I'm a bit worried as on the Enthoo Primo case that part already has honeycombed vent holes. Since the card weighs quite a bit (MSI Seahawk EK X) I'm worried about being able secure it here where it will be stable. Below this is where Phantex also has another honeycombed area which is removable in case you want to stick a PSU in the front. I'm not sure if it could be placed securely there either. I'm a bit stuck as you see.

themightyvoice
01-12-2017, 02:54 PM
Man, you're lucky I joined these forums a few days ago.
http://i.imgur.com/wYOTWoW.jpg
I've done exactly this already to my Evolv TG. I can show you exactly how I chopped up the back end of my computer to accomodate it, but give me a little bit.

DavidS
01-13-2017, 06:29 PM
Hey brighttail, I've seen the 2nd mount (the mountain mods one) but can you link me to where I can find the first mod?

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doyll
01-14-2017, 01:24 PM
I like the way themightyvoice (http://phanteks.com/forum/member.php?1645-themightyvoice)'s looks, but I would rotate it 180 so back of PCB is toward side of case and GPU cooler intake fans are into open area between it an motherboard.

brighttail
01-16-2017, 11:18 AM
Hey brighttail, I've seen the 2nd mount (the mountain mods one) but can you link me to where I can find the first mod?

This is what I was looking at. It is for a coolermaster case but it looks like it would fit in any case that has 7 or 8 pci-e slots.

http://www.cmstore.eu/maker-made/ice-wolf-vertical-graphic-card-holder/

Here is another version:

http://www.cmstore.eu/case/vertical-graphic-card-holder/

Both are out of stock and only available in the UK store currently.

brighttail
01-16-2017, 11:21 AM
Man, you're lucky I joined these forums a few days ago.
http://i.imgur.com/wYOTWoW.jpg
I've done exactly this already to my Evolv TG. I can show you exactly how I chopped up the back end of my computer to accomodate it, but give me a little bit.

That would be great but I think the evolve case has a solid back in that area where you made the cuts. Mine is all honeycombed for air venting. I know i could put it in there, but i'm afraid for stability.

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themightyvoice
01-17-2017, 06:39 PM
That would be great but I think the evolve case has a solid back in that area where you made the cuts. Mine is all honeycombed for air venting. I know i could put it in there, but i'm afraid for stability.

It's honeycombed on the Evolv as well. It's the exact same design there, here's an album showing some of the cuts I made.
http://imgur.com/a/2mUr0
Basically I just looked for a place where I could use basic thumbscrews (the ones actually included with my Evolv TG) to secure the bracket from Mountain Mods, then marked out where I would need to dremel out some holes or widen some existing holes if necessary. Many of the holes in the mesh already accommodated a thumbscrew in the position I mounted the GPU, so it wasn't too long of a process. I did, however, make sure that at least some of the upper screws were into solid metal, as they'd be holding up most of the weight of the GPU. Frankly, if I were to do this mod again, though, I'd position the bracket lower to the floor of the main bay, and simply utilize washers to retain the security of the mount.

brighttail
01-20-2017, 09:15 PM
It's honeycombed on the Evolv as well. It's the exact same design there, here's an album showing some of the cuts I made.
http://imgur.com/a/2mUr0
Basically I just looked for a place where I could use basic thumbscrews (the ones actually included with my Evolv TG) to secure the bracket from Mountain Mods, then marked out where I would need to dremel out some holes or widen some existing holes if necessary. Many of the holes in the mesh already accommodated a thumbscrew in the position I mounted the GPU, so it wasn't too long of a process. I did, however, make sure that at least some of the upper screws were into solid metal, as they'd be holding up most of the weight of the GPU. Frankly, if I were to do this mod again, though, I'd position the bracket lower to the floor of the main bay, and simply utilize washers to retain the security of the mount.


Yeah I see what you did here. If I take out my bottom rad and fans, using only the top rad in the loop, I could do as you wanted and put the bracket lower and use at least a small part of solid case for the top two screws. This card I have is pretty heavy with the watercooling and the acrylic so i might have to find an additional way to support it, but it could work and I might not even have to dremmel anything. This case has a little slot that his honeycombed that you can take out and put a PSU in the front so I could take that off. There'd be a little exrtra room around the edges but not that much. I may just order the bracket so I can better visualize it.

I have a 30 mm thick rad that is 420 mm up top which I think could cool my CPU and single processor just fine without the need of the 60mm thick 280mm rad on the bottom. (i had it when I was running dual 780s but I'm now on a single 1070.) Do you have a pix of the bracket in place without the video card? Also what card do you use and do you use any support from the bottom and finally what ribbon do you use for your PCI -e connectors?

themightyvoice
01-23-2017, 01:05 AM
Yeah I see what you did here. If I take out my bottom rad and fans, using only the top rad in the loop, I could do as you wanted and put the bracket lower and use at least a small part of solid case for the top two screws. This card I have is pretty heavy with the watercooling and the acrylic so i might have to find an additional way to support it, but it could work and I might not even have to dremmel anything. This case has a little slot that his honeycombed that you can take out and put a PSU in the front so I could take that off. There'd be a little exrtra room around the edges but not that much. I may just order the bracket so I can better visualize it.

I have a 30 mm thick rad that is 420 mm up top which I think could cool my CPU and single processor just fine without the need of the 60mm thick 280mm rad on the bottom. (i had it when I was running dual 780s but I'm now on a single 1070.) Do you have a pix of the bracket in place without the video card? Also what card do you use and do you use any support from the bottom and finally what ribbon do you use for your PCI -e connectors?

This (https://www.moddiy.com/products/Premium-Gold-Plated-16x-PCI%252dE-Extension-Shielded-Cable-Riser-%2830cm%29.html) [<- Link] is the riser cable I used, but I got mine from PerformancePCs based here in the USA. Ordered it while a hurricane was hitting Florida, their home state, too, which was... amusing, in a way.
I don't have any pictures of just the bracket alone installed that I know of, but I'm using one of these big hefty bad boys (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125837&cm_re=Gigabyte_GTX_980Ti_Xtreme_Gaming-_-14-125-837-_-Product) [<- Also a link] for my GPU. I guarantee mine is MUCH heavier than your card, acrylic weighs practically nothing compared to the sheer amount of copper and aluminum used in these.

brighttail
01-23-2017, 08:23 AM
I ordered the bracket today. Before I get the PC riser I want to see how it will look. You said you used just thumb screws to screw it in to the case backing. I may see if i can get something with washers, tho I have plenty of thumb screws.

In the end All this will take some consideration as i will have to take out my bottom rad and redo the loop.

brighttail
01-23-2017, 08:58 AM
The PCI extender cable you listed is 30cm. I think i'm going to need longer LOL. :) Trying to find one 45-60mm.

The good news is these two pre-drilled holes will be really close for the top part of the bracket.

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frunction
02-14-2017, 11:59 AM
The Phanteks cases are pretty nice and have every option I'm looking for except for vertical GPU support.

I can't decide whether to mod an Evolv or just buy one of the new Thermaltake cases that already has vertical GPU support included. Is the mod easy?

doyll
02-16-2017, 06:43 AM
The Phanteks cases are pretty nice and have every option I'm looking for except for vertical GPU support.

I can't decide whether to mod an Evolv or just buy one of the new Thermaltake cases that already has vertical GPU support included. Is the mod easy?
If you are aware of what a quality case is like I'm pretty sure you would be disappointed in Tt .. their quality is not as good as Phanteks. Phanteks is one of the best quality to price cases on the market, maybe the best. Occasionally I hear people complain, but I suspect most of these people have little to no experience with other cases on the market:)

frunction
02-19-2017, 02:03 PM
Maybe Phanteks is working on something:

http://www.imgrum.net/media/1291155254829859800_975967431

Or is it just the elite tray suck in another case?

doyll
02-19-2017, 03:36 PM
Maybe Phanteks is working on something:

http://www.imgrum.net/media/1291155254829859800_975967431

Or is it just the elite tray suck in another case?

First sentence says it all
"Phanteks where awesome enough to send out a prototype vertical PCIE bracket, which is basically an adapter to flip the GPU 90 degrees like in this photo."

brighttail
03-16-2017, 04:51 PM
Hey all I'm back.

So I went a different route and found a Coolermaster Vertical GPU that fits very nicely into the PCI-e Slots. The bracket fits perfectly and requires ZERO modding.

Unfortunately, it ends up looking exactly like the picture just above with the Phantek's GPU vertical bracket. The problem is it places the GPU directly against all the PCI-e Slots which means if you have need for any PCI-e slots you are out of luck as there is quite literally less than an inch between the PCI-e slot and the back of the GPU, so not even a mini m.2->Pci-e bracket can fit in there. I need at least one of the PCI-e slots so this wasn't an option for me to use, despite how cool it looked.

I did also get a hold of the Mountain Mods Vertical GPU bracket. As noted earlier in this thread it would have to be secured to the back of the case. If you look at the picture above just to the left of the PCIE brackets is the area of the Enthoo Primo that a pump/reservoir can be placed. There are even some pre-drilled areas to put a mounting bracket to secure the reservoir. If I were to find a way to put the Mountain Mods bracket here, the card would be far enough out that I could use all my PCI-e Slots. The problem is how to secure it? The bracket is just slightly smaller than the Guide holes for the bracket. :( Only thing I can think of is getting a piece of metal, fixed it to the bracket holes and then affix the gpu bracket the the piece of metal. Sadly I'm really bad at these types of mods. :)

tomcruzz
04-10-2017, 01:06 AM
I've done exactly this already to my Evolv TG
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netherott
04-18-2017, 11:04 AM
Hey all I'm back.

So I went a different route and found a Coolermaster Vertical GPU that fits very nicely into the PCI-e Slots. The bracket fits perfectly and requires ZERO modding.

Unfortunately, it ends up looking exactly like the picture just above with the Phantek's GPU vertical bracket. The problem is it places the GPU directly against all the PCI-e Slots which means if you have need for any PCI-e slots you are out of luck as there is quite literally less than an inch between the PCI-e slot and the back of the GPU, so not even a mini m.2->Pci-e bracket can fit in there. I need at least one of the PCI-e slots so this wasn't an option for me to use, despite how cool it looked.

I did also get a hold of the Mountain Mods Vertical GPU bracket. As noted earlier in this thread it would have to be secured to the back of the case. If you look at the picture above just to the left of the PCIE brackets is the area of the Enthoo Primo that a pump/reservoir can be placed. There are even some pre-drilled areas to put a mounting bracket to secure the reservoir. If I were to find a way to put the Mountain Mods bracket here, the card would be far enough out that I could use all my PCI-e Slots. The problem is how to secure it? The bracket is just slightly smaller than the Guide holes for the bracket. :( Only thing I can think of is getting a piece of metal, fixed it to the bracket holes and then affix the gpu bracket the the piece of metal. Sadly I'm really bad at these types of mods. :)


I'm interesting in this option as well for my Evolv TG. Would you be able to post some pics of your setup?

makza01
04-19-2017, 10:32 PM
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msymeonides
09-07-2017, 07:49 PM
Hey, I have an Enthoo Primo and looking to mount a Gigabyte AORUS 1080 Ti vertically. This is a 2.5-slot (pretty much 3-slot) GPU due to the giant cooler on it. I can't even install it on the PCIe slot that's second from the bottom because the cooler hits the SATA connectors and front USB cables, so I am really interested in mounting vertically to recover those lost slots.

The space where the second PSU goes would be perfect as it would not obscure any of the PCIe slots on the motherboard, and I have a good long insulated riser cable. I am prepared to remove some of the honeycombed paneling to install a bracket for the GPU, I am just concerned about the potential for shorting out the card when it's not installed in an appropriate place, and I am wondering what bracket would be best to use to ensure the GPU is totally secure (e.g. would survive me picking up and moving the case) and does not short out. I do have access to a machining shop that could probably build something for me, but probably at quite high cost, so if I could achieve this using a cheap bracket and some basic cutting/drilling where needed, that would be amazing.

Any thoughts?

msymeonides
09-12-2017, 11:41 AM
Follow-up: Just heard back from PhanteksUSA support about this:

"We will be releasing a vertical GPU bracket in the coming weeks. You should be able to modify the case to install the bracket at the second PSU location. You will most likely need to purchase a longer ribbon cable."

Nice!

msymeonides
09-27-2017, 11:57 AM
Update: Phanteks told me on the phone that the vertical GPU mount is made to replace the existing PCI slots, this means that you would not be able to have any other PCI cards installed (kinda silly if you ask me - who only has a GPU installed and nothing else??). I guess what they previously meant by "modify the case to install the bracket at the second PSU location" would be a pretty extensive mod and not something they have tested at all or would support. Disappointing.

frunction
10-03-2017, 02:26 PM
Update: Phanteks told me on the phone that the vertical GPU mount is made to replace the existing PCI slots, this means that you would not be able to have any other PCI cards installed (kinda silly if you ask me - who only has a GPU installed and nothing else??). I guess what they previously meant by "modify the case to install the bracket at the second PSU location" would be a pretty extensive mod and not something they have tested at all or would support. Disappointing.


If you're building a showy system with a vertical GPU, I doubt most users are going to have any PCI-E devices other than the GPU itself.

I want to get the bracket with the new P300 case. I have no interest in building giant water-cooled systems anymore now that SLI is dead and having a bunch of HDDs isn't really necessary.

If you can actually get your hands on the Cooler Master vertical GPU bracket, it has room for another PCI device or SLI GPUs.

doyll
10-04-2017, 02:37 AM
If you're building a showy system with a vertical GPU, I doubt most users are going to have any PCI-E devices other than the GPU itself.

I want to get the bracket with the new P300 case. I have no interest in building giant water-cooled systems anymore now that SLI is dead and having a bunch of HDDs isn't really necessary.

If you can actually get your hands on the Cooler Master vertical GPU bracket, it has room for another PCI device or SLI GPUs.
Not true. Fore example many top tier builders use high end audio cards.

msymeonides
10-06-2017, 09:52 PM
If you're building a showy system with a vertical GPU, I doubt most users are going to have any PCI-E devices other than the GPU itself.

I want to get the bracket with the new P300 case. I have no interest in building giant water-cooled systems anymore now that SLI is dead and having a bunch of HDDs isn't really necessary.

If you can actually get your hands on the Cooler Master vertical GPU bracket, it has room for another PCI device or SLI GPUs.
I don't want the GPU vertical for any kind of "showy" purposes. I want it vertical so I can free up two PCIE slots that are obscured by the huge 1080 Ti. This is an image analysis workstation.

brighttail
10-08-2017, 04:22 PM
So in the end I got it all working with the Vertical GPU mount from Coolermaster on my machine. It worked. It looked good. It left me with ONE PCI-e slot. The problem is I went through two GPU risers and ended up going back. The risers I got were from CoolerMaster an from DYIods. Simply put, they started giving me errors and freezing up my games. I've bought an Enthoo Elite and I probably won't use the bracket as the GPU will block the Asus Rampage 6 Extreme motherboard beautiful features.

frunction
10-20-2017, 11:57 AM
So in the end I got it all working with the Vertical GPU mount from Coolermaster on my machine. It worked. It looked good. It left me with ONE PCI-e slot. The problem is I went through two GPU risers and ended up going back. The risers I got were from CoolerMaster an from DYIods. Simply put, they started giving me errors and freezing up my games. I've bought an Enthoo Elite and I probably won't use the bracket as the GPU will block the Asus Rampage 6 Extreme motherboard beautiful features.


For vertical GPU you should be prepared to spend $70-$90 for the riser from 3M, Lian-Li, TT Premium, etc. The cheaper cables are like playing the lottery.

msymeonides
01-11-2018, 09:39 AM
So, I modded the Primo SE to mount my GeForce 1080 Ti vertically, because it took up 3 PCI slots and I needed every single slot. I used the Mountain Mods bracket (http://www.mountainmods.com/pci-modular-io-bracket-anodized-black-p-754.html) everyone else uses, used some of the grill holes to secure it to the side of the case (but had to drill one hole so I could secure it with 4 screws), and just used my Dremel tool to cut a hole and fit two DisplayPort cables. I left the motherboard and CPU fans installed during this but I meticulously covered everything up with plastic sheeting to make sure no metal filings end up on any electronics. I used the EZDIY riser (https://www.amazon.com/EZDIY-Express-Flexible-Extension-Card-25cm/dp/B01NH0GW7Z), performance and stability are the same as with standard GPU mounting. As you can see, I am also using a fifth screw which retains the whole GPU with a nut on the other side, to reduce sag.

I used this orientation (fan inside) because this was the only way to secure it to the existing grill on that location of the back panel with minimal drilling/cutting, and because this way the fan can pull in a bit more air and not be as restricted by the side panel. It doesn't look quite as pretty in a dark room, but who cares, this is a workstation PC. However, the upside down orientation does make it quite difficult to install the card because it doesn't have anything holding it up before you screw the side bolts in to secure it to the mount, whereas in the other orientation it would just rest on the mount. Still, I've been able to remove and reinstall the card several times without any particular problems.

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